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sides are looking at if fiscal cliff right now and saying, well, we could go over this thing. it wouldn't be the end of the world and that's a very different view in washington than it is on wall street. i can tell you that. >> eamon, thanks. i know you've got a long day ahead, a long afternoon as well. eamon javers in washington. >> isn't it unbelievable. you have this huge, looming problem, i'll wait until later this afternoon to deal with it. >> and the whole sequester was a way to deal with this later. and corker, i think, on some of the morning shows this morning, senator corker said the worst case today would be to set up another later deadline that would keep the hard questions -- >> and i think a lot of this is so abstract, but if those milk prices go up for people around this country, that's going to be the thing that gets people really animated. >> that and payroll taxes, if they go up, that will hit a lot of americans across the board. >> interesting to see a lot of the stocks today that have exposure to dairy futures, whether it's an hsy, who knows? i haven't even gone throu
will be spent on what's at hand right now obviously with the fiscal cliff, and obviously what we do with 2013, i don't think that you're going to see a lot of regulation questioned, asked during 2013. >> okay. >> i think this one is one stock that will benefit. you'll see the analysts start to upgrade it. >> that being b of a. >> wait until the dow goes higher on your list for 2013. >> we don't do anything with respect to the theories of the dogs of the dow, but the generic sense of buying laggards for future outperformers is a broad one. higher growth names outperforming versus last year which was more defensive. what you do is look at the real laggards, hp and intel come to mind real quickly. >> right. >> they are down low for very good reasons. they are reason to be the desk top computing is definitely under siege with more mobile computing. the management issues with hp. all of those things need to be ironed out and as a result the stocks have underperformed. >> are you saying you would buy those here? >> we don't own them right now and not contemplating buying them right now. talk about str
'll be back on wednesday, in time to trade the fiscal cliff. all right. the deadline, of course, just hours away. if lawmakers wind up kicking the can down the road, they may want to come up with a way of saying so. that son the annual list of words to be ban issued. spoiler alert, trending and bucket list, not surprisingly the phrase that got the most nominations this year, fiscal cliff. so that brings us to this morning's squawk on the tweet. what other phrases should be banned and why. and remember, try and keep it clean. tweet us at squawk street. we've got your responses throughout the morning. fiscal cliff definitely has to go. >> i can't wait for hash tag to go away. >> we'll start hearing about the debt ceiling in two months. >> a ban on 2013's list. >> have a great new year. >> you as well. i have no special plans. i have a 3-month-old daughter -- >> that's very special. >> i'm prohibited from going anywhere. we have dinner reservations about 4:30 p.m., though. >> early birds. >> happy new year. >> same to you. >> presidents of americans for tax reforms, grover norquist ond how his
there's a little bit better tone away from the fiscal cliff. that's where it is right now. >> what about this concept. skeptical, the idea that we're underowned in the stock market and anything -- any resolution could mean stocks. >> a lot of cash on the sidelines that will be put to work if you get a little bit of a sign of a resolution here, bill. happy new year. >> nice tie, but i'm always saying that to you. we're going to the mid-point of the range, dow down 22 points. that's the first hour of the "closing bell." stand by now for hour number two. >> and welcome back, to the "closing bell." i'm mandy drury sitting in for maria bartiromo. it is the end of another trading day, and, no, we do not have a fix for the fiscal cliff. guess what, the numbers also reflect that. let's take a look at how a day on wall street, looks like the dow is down marginally, 24 points to the downside and the nasdaq off by the biggest percentage loss, down by 22 points and the s&p 500 is down by about seven points, and as i said it is crunch time. there are only three trading days left now for 2012 and stil
, right? how would the fiscal cliff, if we went over, affect gold, do you think? >> i think in the long run, gold will do worse if people start to think that interest rates rise. if dwrur going to park your safe money somewhere else, gold is a negative cash flow asset. >> and why wouldn't gold go up if we were going over the cliff? >> it would. in other words, if we do go over the cliff, you would expect gold to do better. >> and the stock market is. and the stock market hasn't done that badly at all. we're at 15% total return on the year. so if you just listen to the news, you would think we might be down but really, we had a very good year. are you going to be able to introduce this guy, andrew? he has more vowels in his last name than consonants. >> let's go to the futures pits where bob iaccino is standing together. >> would you say chee-no, bob? >> would you like it in english or italian? >> iaccino. with that singing. >> wa part of italy, do you know? >> cosanza is the town. it's the foot of the boot. >> not a bad part of italy. >> no, there's really not. >> bob, help us here. >>
on with the fiscal cliff. >> you know, jim, i was watching our futures this morning. right now, it looks like the dow would open down about 65 or 70 points. that's the good news, that the market would shrug this off that there will be a deal reached either later today or in the next few days. we've been expecting all along that it would take a big reaction in the markets to get any serious action in washington. if they're not seeing that, that may make it less likely for them to reach any sort of a grand deal. in fact, a grand deal at this point is probably off the table. what does that mean for the next three to six months for the u.s. markets? >> yeah. waiting to come on the show, i was looking at a chart of the various u.s. markets going back since before the election. and which have sort of gone through some phases. in a way, the markets have sort of factored in from the first immediate period following the election a big deal to resolve the situation in the u.s. is not going to happen. the lying fiscal challenges in the u.s. are not going to be resolved anytime soon. that would be a big surprise
like this? "the kudlow report" starts right now. let's get the latest on the snag on the fiscal cliff talks and surprise news we are going to reach the debt ceiling in days instead of just a few months. john harwood has the details. what's going on? >> not a whole lot of actions going on. although there have been some developments. let me bring our viewers up to date on those. first of all, treasury secretary geithner this afternoon announced the united states would hit the statutory debt limit on monday. that's new year's eve. that's part of an effort to pressure congress to act to raise the debt limit which may or may not be direct limb reply indicated in the fiscal cliff talks but it is relevant to the larger issue of debt and deficits. the treasury can move money around in certain ways to extend the point where we actually reach a crisis for probably a couple of months. but this is an early warning sign. secondly, republicans in the house sent word to democrats in the senate, white house, it is your turn now. we acted to put off the fiscal cliff several months ago with a bill that
around -- oh, they're coming back. that's right. they're part of the fiscal cliff power panel. >>> let's turn to the market sell-off. the dow going down 158 pointis and want you to see the after-market numbers and the futures, something called the futures continue to trade and they suggest that if the dow jones industrial average were to open right now it would be down 315 points. the nasdaq would be down a whopping 51 and the s&p 500 down 39. here now is larry glazer from the mayflower advisers and director at tjm institutional services. guys, when we open on monday, is it going to look that bad? jim? >> it depends on what happens. this is the way uncertainty works, but, you know, i thought for a month that one of two things was possible, one that we go over the cliff and the republicans have ground cover to be lowering taxes and not raising them or these are guys who crave the stage. how are they not going to take it down to the 11th hour? they'll never be able to stand in front of their constituents and say they fought the good fight and by my logic it's still december 28th. this is
that the sh we're dealing with right now in the fiscal cliff is a prime example of it. what i'm arguing for are maintaining tax cuts for 98% of americans. i don't think anybody would consider that some liberal, left wing agenda. it used to be considered a mainstream agenda. and it's something we can accomplish today if we simply allow for a vote in the senate and in the house to get it done. the fact that it's not happening is ancation of, you know, how far certain factions inside the republican party have gone where they can't even accept what used to be centrist mainstream positions on these issues. i'm an optimist. we try every other option before we finally do the right thing. after everything else is exhausted, we eventually do the right thing. and i think that's true for congress, as well. and i think it's important for americans to remember politics have always been messy. people have been asking me a lot about the film "lincoln" and -- >> is this your lincoln moment? >> well, no. look, i never compare myself to lincoln and, b, the magnitude of the issues are quite different from
because, quote, the phone never rang. he complains i've not delivered solutions to the fiscal cliff. he's in error. we all know that in july of this year we passed in the senate the relief that would give -- that it would give to middle class americans. that -- that passed the senate. now, we know the republicans have buried themselves in procedural roadblocks in everything we're trying to do out here and now they are saying, well, we can't do the 250 because it wasn't blue slipped, because it will be blue slipped. mr. president, how does the american people retook the that? there was a bill introduced by the ranking member of the ways and means committee in the house, sandy levin, that called for this legislation. the speaker was going to bring it up to kill it, but he couldn't kill it and then we moved to plan "b," the debacle of all debacles. it's the mother of all debacles. that was brought up in an effort to send us something. he couldn't even pass it among the republicans it was so absurd, he meaning the speaker, so it's very clear now, mr. president, that the speakers's number on
average. there are fears that we're heading over the fiscal cliff. the markets had weak data. consumer confidence for the month of november which, again, reflected concerns that we were headed over the fiscal cliff. the dow, nasdaq and s&p all negative for the month right now. as we take a look at the dow jones industrial average, the drags are cisco system, bank of america. the best performing stock on the dow for this year following its very poor performance in the prior year, alcoa also weaker along with jpmorgan and h hewlett-packa hewlett-packard. 50 day average, when it breaks below that on decent volume, the down side the traders are watching the levels as we came into today's session. groups that are leading the s&p lower are financials which are the best performing sector of 2012. taking a turn south in today's session. energy and materials actually also joining the fray among the leading laggers within the sectors that we followed. we also wanted to point out jcpenney. it was an outlier and today it reverses. it's having its worst day in six weeks, i believe. the reason being
the fiscal cliff or not? >> i hope so, sue. >> and more contentious. >> right. that too is not really about america's long-term debt problem. it is about avoiding an immediate self inflicted economic wound. and it'll chute shut down the government. it would be more draconian than what we are facing with the fiscal cliff. >> i was struck by not only the number of ceos that put pressure on washington, but ceos from some of the biggest companies in america to the small e69 companies in america. >> they were all in favor as a compromise, a tax hike as part after long-term debt solution. that's what has to happen. >>> we have two minutes before the president comes out. let me turn you to the top of the list, mark zuckerberg, why? eric, excuse me one second. we will go to ayman an john. we have some of the framework but the language here may be extremely important. what are we listening for? >> what i expect from the president is to try to keep the pressure on negotiators to get a deal. he will have middle class families around him. to some degree this is a pr event. it is possible and the republ
-- >> that is another piece of legislation up in the air. >> right. and it is all caught up in the fiscal cliff story. >> unbelievable. from a business standpoint bb you have to operate your business regardless of what is going on and the fact we have this uncertainty. there is talk ever further consolidation. is that good for travellers or better to get more capacity out of the air? >> i think that more consolidation is good. it'll start to strip out some of the unnecessary capacity. from an industry perspective, what we are looking for is elected leaders and others to understand the importance of air travel. airlines drive flight percentage gdp. we are talking about a policy in 2013. something about rationalization with taxation. you talk about investment and infrastructure. my gosh, infrastructure in the united states on the ground and in the air. by the way, you talk about also being more globally competitive. this is what a national airline policy is all about. regardless of consolidation, that's what we think makes a great deal of sense for 2013. >> when we were in commercial break, i said, wow
of these fiscal cliff worries. >> we're going to sort of trend right around here -- it doesn't look like we're going to get a deal before year end of any great significance. that being said, we may get one last year. do we trade in line right here? >> so we're going to trade probably 91 on the upside, 86 on the low side. i think once a deal is done, you're going to see a reemergence of a risk-on rally. i think that's where crude oil breaks out to the upside. we start to get an upward trend. opec's 2013 target is around $100. i think we'll move up into the mid-90s and probably press through that $100. one of the burdens we have is we do have an abundance of supply in the u.s. the u.s. won't export any crude oil, but i think the possibility of us starting to consume more, would drive and help support those higher prices. >> when you put on those longs, i'm wondering, because this week is a holiday shortened week. congress is coming back on the 27th. is this a trade for 2013? >> yeah, it is more of a trade for 2013. i wiould start to look at fartherer out contracts, to like december 2013, and
dive. >> all right. so what can you leave us with? housing is good? >> fiscal cliff is bad. >> is that a net-net? >> i think the housing is good but the housing isn't great. everybody's talking about housing like it's going to carry us some place. it's just not going to drag. but it's not going to be a boost and i'm still very concerned about where the economy is going. >> is there any way that we've over -- sort of had too much anxiety and angst about the fiscal cliff or not? >> i don't think there's been much anxiety. and i talked to my brother and sister in suburban detroit. they're not in the financial world and they're always talking about the fiscal cliff. my wife has the same thing with her brothers and sisters, they're not in finance but it's what everybody's talking about. everybody's worried about it. but the experts tell us that we're not going to go over the cliff so they know it's there but they don't think we're going to go over it. so we'll see. >> i hope you're right. thank you for being here. >> coming up, is washington ready to go cliff diving? we're going
the fiscal cliff will be resolved and they rise above. what's the best way to play a fabulous bull market that some think could be unleashed? simple. assuming that everything goes right, the best proxy for the market in 2013 is the blackstone group. the big publicly traded asset firm. why blackstone? a company that i wasn't keen on. the company earns money investing other people's money. private equity funds. at the moment the company has $205 billion in assets under management. that's the difference between where the congress is it's so much. it's as good as it gets. everyone says that. when you see someone who in the business work at blackstone. they are a smart guy. that's the way it is. right now in this not so hot environment all of blackstone products are beating benchmarks. that matters. it's the end of the year. the business is good. in the last two years the company managed to raise 72 billion of new money from investors and greater assets under management, the more money blackstone makes from performance fees. this is how they're doing in an okay but somewhat troubled environmen
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away from the fiscal cliff negotiations? >> there seems to be some politics behind this announcement right now as we hit the ceiling. as you make the calculations, it seemed to me as if they were only going to hit the ceiling in february or march next year anyway. the fact that he comes out and says actually we're shutting the ceiling now and i have to make all these adjustments so we hit only in february seems to me that there is a bit of politics going on already and trying to increase the pressure on the republicans to agree at the year end. >> i wonder how much is priced into the markets. despite the fact that we're going partially over the cliff or doing the coyote/roadrunner thing in the air, i'm just not sure that we are necessarily going to see a huge move. among other things, it seems the market is tired of the political wrangling'. >> indeed. i think what is priced in is that this is priced in at a slope. it's something that's going accumulate over the year and is going to hit the gdp if it really hits over the course of the whole year, not all in january. it's not going to
inflation. >> right. >> and the fiscal cliff business is a big deal. it's a potentially big game changer. i didn't think there was a chance we would go over really until the last couple of days. now i'm thinking there could be a bungee jump where you go over for a couple days and come back. >> if you're a market timer and you believe in your bungee do you think there's going to be an opportunity? >> absolutely. because i truly believe. the good news is, is this is setting ourselves up for true entitlement and tax reform in 2013. it could be six months from now. it could be a very difficult first six months. >> you're looking for a baby deal now? >> there's probably going to have to be a baby deal, partly because of amt. you cannot retro actively fix amt. that would hit millions of people. it's a very, very big deal. very, very costly. everyone would get blamed for it. then there's another things that are part of the deal that you could wait for. payroll tax, that's $160 million. we have obama care taxes. we know those are going through. >> the payroll tax number going up again? >> payroll t
-wise and the s&p is down 3.33 at 1423. five days left until the fiscal cliff deadline, and though the market has been very resilient to this point, what happens if we go over the cliff and if lawmakers cannot get it together come january 1st? will it be a big meltdown for wall street? that's what everybody wants to know. >> certainly hope know. in today's "closing bell" exchange, former chief economist of the vice president joe biden, oliver perch from gary goldberg and matt cheslock and rick santelli, thank you very much. jarred, you wrote an article called "cliff dive, what the heck happens next?" what does happen next? >> well, that's actually all up to john boehner, as i see it, because if we were to decide to bring the president's most recent small car compromise to the house i actually believe it would pass. the problem for him it would probably pass with mostly democrat vote, but i think it could get through the senate. that's the only scenario i see by which we avoid going over the cliff. >> wait a minute. >> at least temporarily. >> wait a minute, jared. john boehner said it's up to the
remember. >> a lot of sports. fiscal cliff. i don't know what to tell you. i will talk about it more right now. maybe we'll do that monday but you have to promise we'll be together. the fiscal cliff has been one of the factors holding back consumer spending this holiday season. joining us now, marshall cohen, from mtv group, chief analyst industry. you scoured all of retail to find this. he has pinstripes going. i've heard about stripe on stripes and you have stripes with the cuff links. >> it's all about a blending. >> a blending. there's stripes but it's not too busy. he ae's got the right. >> years ago he commented on my pocket square and trying to work something else. >> people very fashion forward, i want to try to copy. >> you have that tie going today. that makes a nice story. >> let me ask you. i just had someone not even concede price fixing could hurt innovation with drug prices. do you know absolutely for sure the fiscal cliff hurt retail sales? >> it actually did. it took the psychological factor into the mix. at first it didn't look like it did. consumers respond two weeks bef
to serve. >>> fiscal cliff fears pushing stocks lower but we're well off those lows right now and news that the house will reconvene on sunday evening at 6:30 p.m. eastern time. let's get to seemor, modi with more on this. >> hi, mandy, off of our lows, but today a risk-off approach to trading. that's a strategy being used as wall street is waiting by for the latest on the fiscal cliff negotiations. interestingly enough when you look at the year-to-date performance of the major indices, the nasdaq is the outperformer, however. for q4, just this last quarter, the nasdaq is the worst performing major index. some is down about half a percent today. lastly, one of the bright spots in the online travel space that i want to point your attention to, expedia.com. no major news hepthelping lift the stock. however, traders telling me that technically the stock looks strong. even on twitter you'll see that there are a lot of traders tweeting about this stock, up about 3 president 6%. bill? >> all right. seema, thank you very much. meantime, nokia's shares lower -- they were early on by more than
that continue in 2013 even if we do see this -- some sort of resolution of the fiscal cliff and what it could do to paychecks and jobs in the economy? >> the offset is that people look at the value of their houses and start feeling better. one-third of household wealth is the value of their house and if they start seeing prices stabilize and appreciating, that could offset some pullback in overall consumer spending. >> where will we make money then, do you think? >> my sense is emerging markets is where you're going to have a lot of growth. those markets have been depressed for a couple of years, so equities in emerging markets, equities in the u.s. keep clear of europe for now. i think high yield debt will be interesting. within equities, if the economy starts really growing it will be more broad-based and people can move away from the more conservative investments and go into more cyclical as well as smaller cap stocks. >> optimistic view on 2013 from alison deans. always good to see you. >> thank you. >>> when we return on "the wall street journal report," maria will be back gazing into the c
on this so called fiscal cliff. i'm going to bring in the republican from the great state of caps cannes. always great to have you on the show. first of all, will the majority of republicans vote for this deal even though i'm not sure what the deal is on the sequester side? >> is there is an interest of solving the problem i think what you said is how most republican ares feel. we need to know the details of the deal and i'm on the side if it is going to be postponed it is going to be paid for by reduced spending elsewhere. that is the wrong direction to go. so while there is an interest and believe that we are getting close to a deal, there is yet enough unknown that you can't answer your question at this time. >> it troubles me, if you run off the sequester and run off the tax revenues to make up the difference which is what the president said today in his goofy press conference. if that happens, i want to ask you if this thing can actually pass. too quick, 51 votes and 60 votes and democrats and republican ares can the two come together? is that how it might work? >> my guess is that
. how would you handle the fiscal cliff? go vote finance.yahoo.com. the results are coming up. there you see your options. michelle. >>> tyler, one of cnbc's best known traders making a very bold call. get out of everything, everything, all cash. get the take of other -- two other wall street trading pros in two minutes. see if they agree. >>> hi. i'm steven yee. i'm the operating partner of the exchange bar and grill. i'm annoyed. i'm annoyed with the fiscal cliff. we're looking at not knowing what's going to happen. we fall off this cliff and everyone gets affected. there's no trickle down effect, it's more like a slush. we will lose income. the question is how much income are we going to lose? if we fall off the cliff the fear is that we fall off the cliff, not slowly glide down the cliff. government at this point needs to understand that we should be able to trust you to do the right things. put politics aside. think about us, the people. that's why we have government. fix it. this is $100,000. we asked total strangers to watch it for us. thank you so much. i appreciate it. i'll be r
're not that confident any more. and i think something has -- this fiscal cliff has something to do about it. but people are scared in the u.s. right now. you increase their taxes, increase their savings, i'm not saying it's a bad thing for them, but it's a bad thing for the economy. >> so you're saying this has caught on now. it was a while before consumers didn't get the fiscal cliff idea. we are getting closer to the worst case scenario and you're saying it's timely caught on with main street. >> we're talking about money. money is is 00% emotional. put those two together and all of a sudden people get protective. as a result, they will begin to save and not spend. we need people to spend money. we need people to buy things .right now, the responsibility thing for the americans to do is not to do that until this gets resolved. >> ralph, you're with us for the full hour. fantastic. find us on twitter if you want to get in touch with karen or myself. up next, we speak to the man who says he can save italy's economy from mistakes which have been made across europe. >> europe has taken a stiffer route. t
about the fiscal cliff meeting that just broke up between the president and congressional leaders and that there were some disappointed reporters, yourself included, that they didn't speak to you. >> reporter: that's right, mabdy. we always want that exclusive interview or even a non-exclusive interview, but a little bit more information here. the white house is telling -- the white house press pool was told the meeting ended at 4:15 p.m. so that puts the meeting at just over an hour all told, and i'm told that we just saw senator mcconnell, the republican leader in the senate leaving the white house here, so that gives us three out of the four congressional leaders that we've now seen going out of building. unless i'm missing senator reid here. it looks like he might still be in the building at this point. >> the republicans have left the building pretty much. >> reporter: that's right. >> leaving the democrats to talk about this. so it doesn't look that great. stay right there. let's talk about this with some market pros, morgan lander and stephen nicholas is with us, ed moy and
monetary and fiscal reforms. we have the shanghai composite there up about a quarter percent. >>> all right. in today's top stories, the u.s. is five days away from going over the fiscal cliff. president obama is cutting his holiday vacation short, returning to washington tomorrow to continue talks to try to avoid that automatic tax hike and spending cut combination. that's the same day that congress returns to town. before the president left town on friday, he suggested a stopgap measure to freeze tax rates for people making less than $250,000 a year and extend unemployment benefits. reports say white house staffers have been quietly working with senate democrats to come up with a plan to avoid the fiscal cliff, but little progress has been made. >>> a chinese ratings agency is putting the u.s. on negative watch citing troubles with long-term debt issues. on a statement on its web site, global credit says each political party insists on the proposition favorable for its own interest. it expects u.s. debt to rise to 105% of gdp this year and warns the country will probably fall into recessi
return to washington. maybe, allen, just maybe, some resolution of fiscal cliff talks about the end of the week? >> well, just maybe. the trouble is, they look pretty entrenched right now. i think for some ways for the market perspective, that's going to be what we want. but i would say we're beginning to price in the possibility. >> that it doesn't happen, yeah. continuing with the region, the south korean government is forecasting a mild recovery next year. the finance ministry has set a growth target of % for 2013. that compares to the bank's earlier projection of 3.2%. the central bank has now to continue supporting growth. both of these statements were pushing the won higher. you can see the dollar/won trazing down about 0.5% today. >>> a slowdown in the country of china is proving to be short lived. power generation and food processing firms are leading the recovery. >>> and germany's latest exports seems to be recession proof. it's a tradition dating back to the middle ages, but germany's christmas markets are more popular than ever. nbc's andy eckh artson sends this report.
on the fiscal cliff, eamon javers joins us with the details. >> good evening, meshel. capitol hill sources tell cnbc that congressional leaders are planning to go to the white house tomorrow to meet with president barack obama and it is not entirely clear at this point when that meeting will take place and details are still being hammered out and we saw today a blistering series of rhetorical jabs from one side to the other and it's not clear as a result of all that whether a deal can, in fact, get hammered out in the remaining time before new year's eve and take a listen to senate republican leader mitch mcconnell earlier today explaining the problems he's facing in washington. take a listen. >> the truth is we're coming up against a hard deadline here and as i said, this is a conversation we should have had months ago. and republicans aren't about to write a blank check for anything senate democrats put forward just because we find ourselves at the edge of the cliff. >> we do know that the house of representatives has been told that the members there should be back in town here in washington
the latest on what she's hearing on the fiscal cliff negotiations. what you got, m? >> hi there. thanks much. i've been on the phone all day with a number of house republicans and senators. and what i'm hearing is that the president's press conference made this bill a much tougher sell in the house. at this point, yes they are meeting at 5:00 p.m., that gop conference. but it's not about anything fiscal cliff related as you heard from john harwood. basically thes gop expected that even though they were reluctant to agree to any tax increases, they were going back to their constituents and saying we are agreeing to taxes going up on anyone making $450,000 or higher and they expected that the tax conversation would be done for 2012 and that they would begin going into 2013 with the conversation over spending cuts. however, that press conference where he basically said it's not going to be on the backs of seniors and we need more revenue suggested that the president is going to seek loopholes closed, exemptions closed in the tax code and possibly further tax increases for more revenue. and my s
on the fiscal cliff some time in the next four days and 14 hours. that's coming up at 11 a.m. "squawk on the street" will be right back. [ male announcer ] this december, remember -- what starts with adding a friend... ♪ ...could end with adding a close friend. the lexus december to remember sales event is on. this is the pursuit of perfection. >>> second day in a row retailers led the losers list. simon who can is here with what is coming up at 10. >> we will talk about where the markets are going to go from here, fiscal cliff, positioning for 2013 and kim co-on the program, one of the biggest owners of american malls. how are they faring as america spikes again? apple, a four-year low, they are experime experiments, carl, as you mentioned with curved glass. >> simon, looking forward to see you. >>> chicago drive mayors ring in the new year with reluctant, starting in january, they will be shelling out more for downtown parking meters than drivers in any other city across the country. the cost to park at a metered spot will rise to $6.50 a hour, double what drivers paid in 2008. so
the fiscal cliff, while many consumer can't articulate each individual item and element of the cliff, they know there's something not good going on with the economy right now. and if it's op the front line of every newspaper and it's the headline and lead story of every television show, that starts to seep into consumer psyche. that i think will play a role. >> mr. shay, that said, and you've said it, do you think that your 4% estimate for year-on-year growth was perhaps overly optimistic in view of what is unfolding on capitol hill, and evident on every front page this morning? >> simon, i don't think so. we're not ready to go there yet. mastercard's assessment of .7 this year compares to 2% last year. and our prediction of 4% this year compares to 5.5%, 5.6% a year ago. they don't measure the market the same way. they look at a much smaumer slice. they don't have online sales. i'm not sure how they get the proprietary data from the competitors. we're going to wait until we see all the numbers and make a final assessment when they come in. >> sure. but equally what you're both talki
money" later tonight. watch "power lunch" right now. >>> "halftime" is over. "power lunch" starts right now. >> merry cliff-mas, everybody. five days left and still no deal. president obama cutting short his annual vacation in hawaii to deal with the fiscal cliff. no sight of congressional leaders. they're not in town. investors getting a little bit nervous. will congress get it together in time? no talks that we know of are imminent. it was by at least one measure, the weakest holiday retail sales growth since the financial crisis back in 2008, but could a post-christmas holiday sales bounce be around the corner? >>> and what a year it has been for tech. gadgets and gizmos. apple, facebook, microsoft all have big news. will 2013 be a lucky year for the sector? which tech titans might lead the new trends? simon hobbs is in at the new york stock exchange. >> good afternoon. when president obama arrives back in d.c., can he prevent america falling over the fiscal cliff? house republicans haven't yet called their members back to washington. our chief political correspondent, john harwood,
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